Gates calls for 'infinite' H-1Bs, better schools

WASHINGTON--Microsoft Chairman Bill Gates on Wednesday renewed his fight for "infinite" H-1B guest-worker visas and improvements in U.S. education before largely receptive senators on Capitol Hill.

In only his third appearance ever at a congressional hearing, Gates urged politicians here on the U.S. Senate Health, Education, Labor and Pensions Committee to pursue a three-pronged approach to boosting the nation's competitiveness: equipping American students, teachers and workers with necessary math and science skills; elevating research spending; and rewriting immigration laws to allow American companies to hire more foreigners.

The United States has much to be proud of in the technology realm, Gates told the politicians, but "when I reflect on the state of American competitiveness, my feeling of pride is mixed with deep anxiety."

The Microsoft chairman's message was hardly new. Gates and other high-tech leaders have been lamenting the state of the U.S. educational system and work force, particularly in the realm of math and science, for years. They argue that without dramatic policy changes, the United States will lose its competitive edge in the high-tech realm.

On education, Gates called for doubling the number of science, technology and math graduates in the United States by 2015. Doing that, he told the committee, requires more funding and a number of additional steps, including recruitment of 10,000 new science and math teachers in high schools and creation of 25,000 new undergraduate scholarships and 5,000 new graduate fellowships in the area each year.

On research, Gates implored politicians to dedicate more funding to federal research programs and to make the research and development tax credit permanent, an idea supported by President Bush. (Late last year, politicians approved a temporary extension of the much-beloved break.)

Movement is already under way in Congress to pass a law designed to spend more on federal programs in those areas. Earlier this week, a group of Senate leaders, including Majority Leader Harry Reid and Minority Leader Mitch McConnell, introduced a bill, called the America Competes Act, that attempts to promote many of the educational and research goals advanced by Gates and other high-tech leaders.

Politicians indicated they're also willing to take cues from Gates as they craft new laws in the immigration area. In his testimony, Gates said there's only one way to solve what he deemed a "crisis"-level shortage of qualified scientific talent: "Open our doors to highly talented scientists and engineers who want to live, work and pay taxes here."

Gates repeated a now-familiar plea by high-tech companies for an overhaul of the H-1B visa system. Established in 1990, that program currently awards 65,000 visas to foreigners with at least a bachelor's degree in their area of specialty and allows them to remain employed in the United States for up to six years.

Visa shortfall
Gates said there's a "terrible shortfall" in the number of visas available to high-tech companies and cautioned that the nation will "find it infinitely more difficult to maintain its technological leadership if it shuts out the very people who are most able to help us compete."

"America has always done its best when we brought the best minds to our shores," Gates said, citing German-born Albert Einstein as an example.

Several proposals were on the table last year to boost the number of visas, but none of them was ultimately approved. Congress has already approved a cushion of up to 20,000 additional visas for foreigners who receive master's degrees or higher from American schools.

When asked by Sen. Judd Gregg (R-N.H.) how many visas Congress should approve, Gates repeated a suggestion he made years ago: that there should be an "infinite" number. "Even though it might not be realistic," he said, "I don't think there should be any limit."

Gregg said he "agreed 100 percent" that there shouldn't be a limit on the number of highly skilled people in the country, but he suggested Congress might not be able to do more than double the quota.

Support for bumping up the number of visas is hardly universal. Advocacy groups representing American computer programmers and scientists, such as the Programmers Guild, have fiercely resisted the idea. They argue that companies like Microsoft have not been making a good-faith effort to recruit qualified Americans and that the current structure of the H-1B program allows American companies to hire foreign workers at lower pay rates than American counterparts.

Committee politicians embraced virtually all of the suggestions made by their high-profile guest.

CONTINUED: The senators respond...
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Watched the whole thing
by smilin:) March 7, 2007 10:53 AM PST
What most stood out for me is just how stupid and incompetent our congress is. Bill is no dummy and his intelligent comments stood in stark contrast to quite a few of the committee member's shallow attempts to push their own agendas. At least a few of them seemed to "get it".
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Gates already has his money, he doesn't care
by alainassaf March 7, 2007 11:22 AM PST
Gates has been a long advocate for increasing visas for tech workers. This has always bothered me. While his foundation (only recently) is trying to improve education here in the U.S., allowing an "infinite" number of foreign workers into our country to fill a seemingly infinite number of vacant positions leads me to believe that CEO's just want to drive the average salaries of IT Workers down. Information Technology has just recently recovered from a couple of "busts" and swelling the number of available workers for any available position will keep native workers out of a job. The enthusiastic congressional responses quoted by this article show that no political party cares about the middle or lower classes. Let's open up our doors to H-1Bs for the high-tech, skilled jobs that Americans "don't want to do" and start a guest worker program for the blue collar jobs Americans "don't want to do". Where does that leave you and me???
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Opposing efforts
by eBob1 March 7, 2007 11:41 AM PST
Increasing H1-B visas will probably cause the number of science and technology graduates to drop. Someone looking to go to school for four years for an engineering degree is going to be dissuaded from pursuing that degree if after graduating his/her salary is eroded by competition from third-world countries or, worse yet, there are no positions available in the chosen career. What point is there in getting a science or technology degree if the only jobs available to native-born Americans are stock-boy at the big box store or flipping burgers?
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Yet MS puts limits on domestic contractors
by bossjimbob March 7, 2007 11:47 AM PST
What's ironic here is that MS is notorious for imposing 9-month/1-year terms for contractors for domestic workers. What they've done is create a perpetual "revolving door" policy of bringing in temporary workers to fill the same jobs over and over, thus avoiding paying benefits since these people are not considered employees. To add insult to injury, these people are paid less than half of what their consulting firm bills for services and then they are forced into a 100-day "break" between contracts. How about giving qualified Americans permanent jobs instead of handing out visas for open-ended contracts, Mr. Gates?
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now I don't feel so bad about pirating windows
by casual observer March 7, 2007 11:59 AM PST
I know lots of IT folks who are still struggling to find decent paying jobs and Mr. Bill wants to introduce even more half price workers. I feel good that the only non pirated MS product I've ever used happened to come with my 386 in 1992. I used to say I wouldn't pay for windows because it was crap but now I've got a more political justification.
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College = Too much $$$
by theitdude March 7, 2007 12:10 PM PST
Why can't we make education more affordable for kids. 3 of my friends from India claim they got their engineering degrees for $150. The government pays for it. Here you get to spend $120K for tuition, $2400 for books, and they charge for ID cards and everything in between.
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Gates for infinite H-1BS
by Kwanky March 7, 2007 1:23 PM PST
Mr. Bill must think we don't remember our history. Just as the aviation industry saw a glut of enginerees in the 50's and 60's, so is the computer field seeing the same situation. No field, high tech or not, can handle an ifinite number of people. I know people all across the country with degrees in the computer field, and nearly all of them are doing something else while paying back humongous college loans. Some of these people immigrated here from half way around the world with their training, and they are taking restaurant jobs to keep a roof over their heads. The dirty little secret is not that they can't find qualified people, it's just that Mr. Bills company, like a lot of others, doesn't want to pay a living wage. If Mr. Bill get his wish, and hires all the foreign labor he can, it's not going to make any difference how many legal americans want a computer related job, when the market is full, it's full. At that point, does anybody really think Mr. Bill's company is going to fire all those H-1BS, and hire someone else just because they happen to be legitimate american citizen. Come on people, wake up and smell the money!!!
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How about investing in our citzens
by gerry-g March 7, 2007 1:53 PM PST
Since Gates is so concerned about an US labor shortage, how about investing citizen's education? In the 60's the US had "National Defense Student Loans". Low interest (no interest while in school!) for those seeking higher education in technical fields. If the US is again at high risk due to a shortage of technical talent, why not restore what worked! Maybe not, that has nothing to due with corporate profits, only US security...
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Gates is a Dirty Lying Sociopath
by asdf March 7, 2007 2:23 PM PST
Gates is a dirty lying sociopathic personality. Witness the contractors whose labor he lied about so his company wouldn't have to pay overtime. Witness the tens of thousands of small companies that were destroyed by M$ monopolistic practices. Witness the 3000 new software patents that his band of keyboard monkeys crank out very year which only serve to impede progress. Witness the massive massive outsourcing of jobs to India and other places to escape and drive down US wages while Windows have never ever as a result of such cost cutting practices decreased even a dime nor has any of M$'s other products. Witness the bare-faced knowing lies he's told in open court regarding his company's monopolisitic practices. Witness his lying to Congress today about being able to find qualified American engineers. The free market will produce as many highly qualified engineers as is needed but Gates et. al. can't stop gaming the mechanism through which that would happen, wage increases. No one has done more to destroy the outlook of American engineering than this megalomaniac and now that he's destroyed it, he wants to kill it once and for all through unlimited immigration. Gates is a sick animal; a sick degenerate lying broken filthy amoral predator who won't stop preying on the American economy and on American democracy until it's nothing but a two-tiered system of haves and have-nots. Anything you can do to hurt Microsoft is good for America. Anything you can do to hurt Microsoft is moral and right and just.
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Gates what ever
by cohaver March 7, 2007 3:17 PM PST
Gates need to spend a little time looking at cost of software and equipment for schools. higher math and science books and software cost are out of control Degree's in the USA need to fall in line more training in core subjects less in history of subjects. Overseas you don't spend 5 class days going over who made basic unit of a subject. Gates need cheap labor but is afraid of doing his research overseas it mite fall out of his control.
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